How to use Shoppy.gg and DB coupons for registrations (Protect your site from TOS violations)

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Do you want to prevent your site from affecting your PayPal and or Stripe accounts?
Is your site adult or not approved by PayPal and Stripe TOS?

Well I have a great solution you may enjoy to insulate your site from violating the TOS
This method woks for Dragonbyte Credit events as well but I don't recommend doing it that way. As it creates a TON of credit events that you cannot delete after they are used. If you want a walkthrough of that process let me know. but again NOT recommended. this is the safest way to do this.

Step 1
Sign up for Shoppy.gg OR Sellix.io (both seem to work)

Step 2
Go to https://www.voucherify.io/generator and create as many coupons youd like. Then export them to a XLS or CSV
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Step 3
Navigate to the dbtech credits/coupons section of your forum. and create a demo coupon.
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Step 4
Set up your coupon(s) with the requirements that you want. Note that if you wish to make different coupons you just create a demo coupon with the values that you wish for each type. you sill see why later. Create 1 Demo coupon per category with an appropriate name you can distinguish in the following steps.
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Step 5
This is the hard part but don't worry I got you! (skip this step if you are not comfortable with editing your mysql database!
You will be importing an excel csv into mysql to popualte the coupons.
IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE DOING THIS MANUALLY CREATE ALL YOUR COUPONS IN XF ONE CATEGORY AT A TIME

You are now going to search for your coupon name in the sql databaase. Select your database and click the search tab. Enter the name of your coupon HERE
and Click select all under "INSIDE TABLES" then click "GO"
Be patient this make take some time
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Step 6

Locate the result here and click "browse"
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Step 7
Now we have to do some tricky work. we are going to export our coupon data to another CSV so we can populate it! LEAVE THIS PAGE OPEN DO NOT CLIOSE IT.
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Click the checkbox then click EXPORT and choose CSV Then open your CSV with Excel or your favorite spreadsheet program.
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STEP 8
Modifying your new spreadsheet. as you can see i have added my coupon codes in the 3rd column. in the last column on the right you will ahve to increment the Coupon_id":1, so that it matches the Row id on the left. leave all other values alone. Excel will auto increment them once you make a few 2, 3, 4 then click and drag it should auto increment them down when you drag.. if not just change them by hand. once your done click save as CSV
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NOTE you will have to do this for every different coupon that you create so I suggest you keep a master spreadsheet handy so you can know which coupons have what values...

Step 9
Once you have set up ALL your coupon values and types into your master spreadsheet. give it a second look.. cause im sure you may have missed something!
Now time to import! go back to your open mysql and click the IMPORT tab!
Now were going to import our NEW table back into MYSQL
Simply click on import and chose CSV as the file type and import your new table. (be patient!)
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Step 10
After the import you should be able to go back to your user upgrade admin panel and see your coupons populated. if not, delete the rows of this table and start over.. no harm done :) you may have forgotten a row or have duplicate data.

Step 11
Open Shoppy.gg and navigate to your products. and create a new product and fill in the product details. then make the product an item and paste ALL the codes for the coupon that you made earler. if you ahve different coupons codes for different things make 1 shoppy item for each and paste the corresponding codes for that coupon below.
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Step 11
Go to your shoppy profile and you will see your item listed :)

Step 12
Winning!
 
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Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but how do you apply a subscription using ONLY the coupon ?
If I disable the standard subcription in XF I don't see nothing to upgrade, and if enable it, I still see the pay gateway button :
https://ibb.co/82KJcCg

EDIT:
ok, I'm stupid. ( setting 100% discount)

https://ibb.co/yRCYS4K
 
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Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but how do you apply a subscription using ONLY the coupon ?
If I disable the standard subcription in XF I don't see nothing to upgrade, and if enable it, I still see the pay gateway button :
https://ibb.co/82KJcCg

EDIT:
ok, I'm stupid. ( setting 100% discount)

https://ibb.co/yRCYS4K
zeus1971yup! its pretty easy process! glad you like it! You can Also do this with Dragonbyte Credit events... but that gets messy!

Remember shoot me a donation if you can helps keep me active on here as I'm always working on something fun! You can use this method with sellix.io as well :)

Ive never seen this method so this is all trial and error for me.
 

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I dont know if this is the right category gfor this but @ENXF NET feel free to move this where you like! im sure MANY people are looking for a solution like this :)
 

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Also I am willing to do this process for anyone remotely via Teamviewer or similar software. for a small fee of course :) I will create as may coupons as you wish and set up your Shoppy account as well. For security reasons do not add any payment information into shoppy before i do this process! This way none of your banking info can be exposed to me :)
 

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This is cool, but, there are 2 or maybe 3 considerations

1. No automatic subscription payments with paypal/stripe/etc - I have had sites where recurring payments from subscriptions have accounted for over 50% of income, when people have to re-signup themselves every month, sales can drop off.
2. This does not completely protect you from getting suspended by paypal, stripe and other non-adult billers. They might not notice themselves, but if someone goes through enough effort to report your accounts, they can and will ban you.
3. This ties into the second point, the bigger you get and the more sales you make, the more likely you will get banned
 

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This is cool, but, there are 2 or maybe 3 considerations

1. No automatic subscription payments with paypal/stripe/etc - I have had sites where recurring payments from subscriptions have accounted for over 50% of income, when people have to re-signup themselves every month, sales can drop off.
2. This does not completely protect you from getting suspended by paypal, stripe and other non-adult billers. They might not notice themselves, but if someone goes through enough effort to report your accounts, they can and will ban you.
3. This ties into the second point, the bigger you get and the more sales you make, the more likely you will get banned
chronoshiftTrue. Only some considerations :
1) you can offer annual subsciptions, just in case...
2) true. But this can always happend.
3) True.

"4" Solutions (,outside of bitcoin) ?

I need "just" an annual donation option (giving some features to the users) without give to the users my personal identity
 
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This is cool, but, there are 2 or maybe 3 considerations

1. No automatic subscription payments with paypal/stripe/etc - I have had sites where recurring payments from subscriptions have accounted for over 50% of income, when people have to re-signup themselves every month, sales can drop off.
2. This does not completely protect you from getting suspended by paypal, stripe and other non-adult billers. They might not notice themselves, but if someone goes through enough effort to report your accounts, they can and will ban you.
3. This ties into the second point, the bigger you get and the more sales you make, the more likely you will get banned
chronoshift1. depends on how creative you are.. monthly, quarterly and yearly subscriptions are possible. I have more than one payment method including linking Patreon to Xenforo but that method requires discord. i may do a tutorial on this in the future. patreon allows users to join a discord ... which can be linked with permissions to xenforo so their subscription works in the forum...
again how creative can you be :)

2. Ive used it without incident... if PayPal would shut you down they would have shut down the BIG sellers on shoppy selling hacked Hulu and Disney+ accounts but they have not. some people have been selling hacked accounts for more than 5 years without issue. nothing is perfect.. and nothing prevents you from being banned from PayPal because in their TOS they can terminate you for ANY reason. BUT this gives you some insulation called plausible deniability. PayPal would have to link YOU to the website...

3. That's why you spread out your payment methods and incentivize others to use crypto by offering them more perks for choosing it. I have no issue with my customers paying with crypto. Most of them a re tech savvy enough to use it and with the price of BTC it makes sense cause you spend LESS :)

4. Currently working on a crypto replacement for DB credits stay tuned
 

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@Pr0fesseur , I like the fee and service of shoppy.gg but the checkout is so bad... . On the contrary the checkout of sellix.io is really intuitive (you have to consider this point if your community are young guys or not. In my case is a mix...) BUT they offer stripe only for business acccount :-(
Definitely if you have no business acccount in paypal, and you want be anonimous is really a problem managing adult sites.
And of course bitcoin is not the default or standard option if your community is not "young" or dedicated to null sites :)
 
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@Pr0fesseur , I like the fee and service of shoppy.gg but the checkout is so bad... . On the contrary the checkout of sellix.io is really intuitive (you have to consider this point if your community are young guys or not. In my case is a mix...) BUT they offer stripe only for business acccount :-(
Definitely if you have no business acccount in paypal, and you want be anonimous is really a problem managing adult sites.
And of course bitcoin is not the default or standard option if your community is not "young" or dedicated to null sites :)
zeus1971i have no issues with my users using shoppy. haven't had one complaint YMMV
 

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I was thinking also that if you have another domain/site (NO adult domain) , you can create and link the payment GW to that site.
Stripe for example has a partner to create free donation pages, that can be embedded in every site : https://www.customdonations.com/howitworks/

The problems is that you loose how XF automatically manage the users upgrades. Would be manually for join or renew subscriptions 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
 

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I was thinking also that if you have another domain/site (NO adult domain) , you can create and link the payment GW to that site.
Stripe for example has a partner to create free donation pages, that can be embedded in every site : https://www.customdonations.com/howitworks/

The problems is that you loose how XF automatically manage the users upgrades. Would be manually for join or renew subscriptions 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
zeus1971i already do this with patreon--->discord--->xenforo
 

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Just a doubt...
With this embeded code (shoppy.gg feature) that I would put in a page of my forum, Stripe what can "see" ? My origin forum site, or just shoppy origin ? :unsure:

https://ibb.co/y8FSZf3
 
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